Nadeko quotes are a simple way to have a bot (Nadeko) post a specific message for you when you type a particular command. This is useful if there are questions that are asked on the server a lot – as you can make a quote with a detailed answer to the question ahead of time, and run the corresponding command every time the question is asked. This saves time as you only need to remember the command, and not the entire answer.
These quotes are local to each server, i.e. quotes made in one server are not accessible in another. (Though I could be wrong!)
Nadeko commands are notoriously difficult to figure out. I hope this guide makes the learning process less painful.
To create a Nadeko quote: (note: two dots, not three)
.. name_of_quote_here contents_of_quote_here
For example:
.. end_the_world END THE WORLD!!!
The contents of the quote will be “END THE WORLD!!!” and the name of the quote is “end_the_world”. Note that you can create multiple quotes with the same name.
To post an existing Nadeko quote: (note: three dots)
... name_of_quote_here
For example: ... endtheworld
, assuming you’ve made the quote using the
instructions above, will result in Nadeko posting “END THE WORLD!!!”.
To list all the quotes:
.liqu
To delete a quote:
.qdel quote_id_here
The “quote ID” is the unique number assigned to the quote. This is necessary because multiple quotes can have the same name. There are two ways to find out what this is:
.liqu
), which also gives you the quote IDFor example, it’s the 1302084
in the below screenshot.
This fancy way of creating Nadeko quotes uses embeds. Embeds put your text into its own box and also allows you to create inline links.
The format to use is similar to that used in Discord’s API, so by adding a few extra lines before and after, you can preview how the embed will look using the Embed Visualiser.
.. name_of_quote_here {
"fields": [],
"title": "Title of quote here",
"description": "Description of quote here. Make sure to escape all double quotes with a backslash.",
"color": 4755967,
"url": ""
}
Then you can type ... name_of_quote
for Nadeko to post the now-created
quote.
Up-to-date as of 2021-05-26.
Quotes:
Below are the commands used to create each of these quotes.
... beginnercn
By chryssi / MartianBuilder. Last updated: 2021-05-26. (1528368)
.. beginnercn {
"fields": [],
"title": "#练习中文・cn-chat-for-beginners is not the channel for questions!",
"description": "This channel is for speakers and learners of Chinese to practice Chinese using basic vocabulary and grammar, particularly people who have no clue what's going on in #只讲中文・chinese-only.
→ **__If you're requesting a translation:__** please ask in #翻译求助・translation-help.
→ **__If you're learning Chinese and you have a Chinese-related question:__** please ask in #中文学习・chinese-study.
Thank you!",
"color": 4755967,
"url": ""
}
... boats
By Kaoffie. Last updated: 2021-04-08. (1382665)
.. boats {
"title": ":sailboat: = :robot:",
"description": "(yes, it's intentional)",
"color": 53380,
"fields": [
{
"name": "",
"value": "",
"inline": true
}
]
}
... can1
Embed by chryssi, text by Jean. Last updated: 2021-04-08. (1482672)
.. can1 {
"title": "The can of cans (part 1 of 2)",
"description": "When translating sentences containing \"can\" into Chinese, English speakers often struggle with the word choice. This is because in English, the modal verb \"can\" is used to express a variety of concepts, which correspond to different words in Mandarin:\n\n**1) A general ability/skill.** Here we use 会 in Mandarin.\n*Examples:*\n> • I can speak English. 我会说英语。(I know how to speak English.)\n> • Can she swim? 她会游泳吗?(Does she know how to swim?)\n> • They can't play the piano. 他们不会弹钢琴。 (They don't know how to play the piano.)\n\n**2) The possibility of events that are outside the speaker's control.** This is when we use 可能.\n*Examples:*\n> • He can still be alive. 他可能还活着。(It is possible that he is still alive.)\n> • Can there be aliens on Mars? 火星上可能有外星人吗?(Is it possible that there are aliens are Mars?)\n> • School can't be over this early. 学校不可能这么早就放学。 (It is not possible that school is over this early.)\n\n**3) The ability to complete a specific task.** Unlike in the case of a general skill, when we talk about one's capability with regards to a specific task, 能 is used.\n*Examples:*\n> • She can eat ten apples in a row. 她能连续吃十个苹果。(She is able to eat ten apples in a row.)\n> • Can he finish his homework on time? 他能按时完成作业吗?(Is he able to finish his homework on time?)\n> • I can't study tonight because I am ill. 我今天晚上不能学习,因为我生病了。(I am unable to study tonight because I am ill.)",
"color": 4755967,
"footer": {
"text": "Text by Jean#0754, embed by chryssi"
}
}
... can2
Embed by chryssi, text by Jean. Last updated: 2021-04-08. (1482674)
.. can2 {
"title": "The can of cans (part 2 of 2)",
"description": "**4) A request/demand (in the form of a question).** Both 可以 and 能 work here, though 可以 sounds slightly softer.\n *Examples:*\n> • Can you open the window? 你可以把窗户打开吗?/ 你能把窗户打开吗?\n> • Can someone help me? 有人可以帮我吗?/ 有人能帮我吗?\n> • Can they shut up? 他们可以闭嘴吗?/ 他们能闭嘴吗?\n\n**5) A suggestion (in the form of a statement.)** 可以 is the best choice for this.\n *Examples:*\n> • We can go to this restaurant for lunch. 我们可以去这家饭店吃午饭。\n> • You can come back tomorrow. 你可以明天再来。\n> • He can take a break if he's tired. 他如果累了的话,可以休息一下。\n\n**6) A permission.** 可以 is used to convey the sense of permission; however, to express the lack of a permission (i.e. a prohibition), 不能 is more common as it's stronger, though 不可以 also works. When asking for permission, both 可以 and 能 work, and 可以 is softer.\n*Examples:*\n> • You can go home now. 你现在可以回家了。(You're allowed to go home now)\n> • Can I watch TV? 我可以看电视吗?/我能看电视吗?(Am I allowed to watch TV?)\n> —Yes, you can. 可以。(You're allowed to.)\n> —No, you can't. 不可以。/ 不能。(You aren't allowed to.)\n> • You can't smoke in this hotel. 这家旅馆里不能抽烟。(Smoking is not allowed in this hotel.)\n\n(Note that while in English, the pronoun \"you\" is often used to refer to people in general, Mandarin does not work in the same way; we usually just say the sentence without personal pronouns.)",
"color": 4755967,
"footer": {
"text": "Text by Jean#0754, embed by chryssi"
}
}
... charsets
By Kotshi. Last updated: 2020-10-22. (1302486)
.. charsets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate_on_traditional_and_simplified_Chinese_characters
... duolingo
Embed by kiwi. Original quote by Trogdor#5338. Last updated: 2020-12-02. (1352923)
.. duolingo {
"fields": [],
"title": "Duolingo is bad, fam. Don't do it.",
"description": "Duolingo gets weird on how it wants to translate things sometimes; does a poor job at explaining grammar rules and usage; and has a lot of audio mistakes when a word has more than one pronunciation.
There are alternatives listed in the "Apps to learn Chinese" section in #资料列表・resource-list - check them out!",
"color": 4755967,
}
... greenzone
By chryssi. Last updated: 2020-09-03. (1246053)
.. greenzone https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/189601264424714241/749456759428481044/image0.png
... handwriting
By kiwi. Last updated: 2020-11-27. (1346329)
.. handwriting {
"fields": [],
"title": "How to make your handwriting look native",
"description": "One common problem for people new to handwriting Hanzi is modeling their characters after computer fonts. Default computer fonts like HeiTi (黑体) and SongTi (宋体) don't represent handwriting. They have different proportions that are meant to be legible on various types of screens, but are not meant to be handwritten; this makes them look blocky and hard to write. For this reason it is advisable to model handwriting after fonts that mimic real handwriting or calligraphy, such as KaiTi (楷体).
You can look up characters in KaiTi alongside stroke order [here](https://dictionary.writtenchinese.com/), or use the Yulin bot in #指令・bots-spam (command: [so 字 )",
"color": 4755967,
}
... help
By chryssi. Last updated: 2020-12-19. (1370642)
.. help **__Just what is this anyway?__**
This server has a collection of "commands" starting with `...` that you can use. These are called **Nadeko quotes**: they're messages saved on the server that you can have @Nadeko#6685 post at any time. You run them by typing `... name_of_quote` in any channel, like `... wechat`.
To **get a list** of the names of all of our Nadeko quotes: type `.liqu` in #bot指令・bots-spam.
To **add a new quote**: ask a moderator with the quote that you would like to add.
... heritage
By chryssi. Last updated: 2020-10-18. (1297335)
.. heritage {
"fields": [],
"title": "“传承语使用者”是什么? / What is a heritage speaker?",
"description": "传承语使用者指的是那些在个人家庭环境中使用的语言与其社会环境中使用的语言不同的语言使用者。
例如:粤语传承语使用者表现为他们在家庭环境中学习了粤语的使用,但因生长在英语为主导语言的国家而导致其粤语使用水平远不及其英语使用水平。
A person who grew up speaking a different language at home, but their ability in that language is not as good as their ability in the language predominantly spoken in that area.
For example, an example of a Cantonese heritage speaker would be if one learnt Cantonese at home from their family, but their command of Cantonese wasn't as strong as their English due to growing up in an English-speaking country.",
"color": 4755967,
"url": ""
}
... homework
By kiwi, modified by chryssi. Last updated: 2021-04-08. (1482680)
.. homework When asking homework/test questions, make sure to also post your own attempt first. This allows other users to help correct your mistakes and improve your skills. Otherwise you won't learn from the experience.
... justask
By chryssi. Last updated: 2020-09-01. (1241473)
.. justask {
"fields": [],
"title": "Skip the formalities - just ask!",
"description": "Instead of asking whether someone is able to help you/whether you can ask a question, it's usually better to directly ask what it is you need help with.
This is actually more polite, because people who are busy right this moment will be able to help you when they're free, without you or them having to wait.
Related: When asking for help, [please don't just say \"hello\" in chat!](https://www.nohello.com/2013/01/please-dont-say-just-hello-in-chat.html)",
"color": 4755967,
"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19648789"
}
... mabaoguo
By chryss. Last updated: 2020-12-02. (1352868)
.. mabaoguo <https://youtu.be/XBX5QVKUcVI>
朋友们好啊!
我是浑元形意太极门掌门人马保国。
刚才有个朋友问我马老师发生什么事了,我说怎么回事,给我发了一几张截图,我一看!嗷!原来是昨天,有两个年轻人,三十多岁,一个体重,九十多公斤,一个体重八十多公斤,他们说,唉…有一个说是我在健身房练功颈椎练坏了,马老师你能不能教教我浑元功法,矮…帮助治疗一下,我的颈椎病。我说可以。我说你在健身房练死劲儿,不好用,他不服气。我说小朋友:你两个手来找我一个手指头,他找不动。他说你这也没用。我说我这个有用,这是化劲儿,传统功夫是讲化劲儿的四两拨千金。二百多斤的英国大力士,动我不动我这一个手指头。啊…哈!他非和我试试,我说可以。诶…我一说的啪就站起来了,很快啊!然后上来就是一个左正蹬一个右边腿一个左刺拳,我全部防区防出去了啊防出去以后自然是传统功夫你点到为止右拳放到他鼻子上没打他,我笑一下准备收拳,由这时间,欸传统功夫的点到为止他已经输了,如果这一拳发力,一拳就把他鼻子打骨折了,放在鼻子上没有打他,他也承认,我先打到他面部。他不知道拳放在他鼻子上,他承认我先打到他面部,啊,我收拳的时间不打了,他突然袭击左刺拳来打我脸,啊,我大意了啊,没有闪,矮…他的左拳给我眼,啊,右眼,蹭了一下,但没关系啊!他也说,啊他截图也说了,两分多钟以后,当时流眼泪了,捂着眼,我说停停。然后两分钟钟以后,两分多钟以后诶就好了,我说小伙子你不讲武德你不懂,我说马老师对不对不起,我不懂规矩。啊,我是…他说他是乱打的,他可不是乱打的啊,蹬蹬边腿左刺拳,训练有素,后来他说他练过三四年泰拳,啊,看来是有备而来!
这两个年轻人不讲武德,来骗,来偷袭,我六十九岁的老同志,这好吗?这不好,我劝这位年轻人好自为之,好好反思,以后不要再犯这样的聪明,小聪明,啊,呃…武林要以和为贵,要讲武德,不要搞窝里斗,谢谢朋友们!
... nihaoma
By yun. Last updated: 2021-03-03. (1446461)
.. nihaoma {
"fields": [],
"title": "What is the most common way of saying "how are you" in Chinese?",
"description": "The short answer: We don't say it.
But, what about these expressions I've learned that are supposed to mean "how are you"?
你好吗 is the classic textbook translation for "how are you" but people don’t really say that in real life.
吃了吗 means "have you eaten" and it’s only used by some people as a common greeting, notably old Beijingners.
最近怎么样, meaning "how are you doing recently", would work with people you already know well, but you’d only ask if you actually care about how they’ve been doing, not as a formality like in English.
However, the main problem is, in English, people like to greet each other by asking how they’re doing, but we don’t really say that in Chinese, we simply don’t have a complete equivalent.
If you’re meeting people you barely know, if it’s in a professional context for example, you’d ask for what to call them politely and maybe some other basic questions depending on the context (like did it take a long time for you to get here, do you want some snack, etc) then start talking about the business; if it’s between peers such as new classmates, you’d just introduce yourselves, and neither case requires a general question like "how are you".
In fact, a lot of Chinese people are really uncomfortable with people asking them "how are you" when they move to an English-speaking environment for the first time.
Credit: Jean",
"color": 4755967,
}
... regular
By chryssi. Last updated: 2020-12-04. (1355833)
.. regular **__Regulars 身份组怎样添加的? / How do I get the Regulars role?__**
“Regulars”身份组是当您达到10级或积攒到7500服务器积分时由@Nadeko#6685或@Tatsu#8792分别自动添加的。您可以在 #指令・bots-spam 里通过输入 `.xp` 去查看自己目前的等级(level)。“Server level”位于左下角(与“global level”不同)。
如果您已获得Regulars身份組,可根据自身喜好前往 #💜・regulars-color 按指示添加紫色身份组。
The Regulars role is given automatically by @Nadeko#6685 at **level 10** and @Tatsu#8792 at 7500 server score. You can check your current level by typing `.xp` in #指令・bots-spam and looking at the "server level" in the bottom left (this is different from the "global level").
If you have the Regulars role, you can choose to be purple if you wish. Please follow the instructions in the #💜・regulars-color channel if you would like the color.
... simportrad
By Kaoffie. Last updated: 2020-12-08. (1359222)
.. simportrad {
"title": "Simplified and Traditional are different writing systems, not different languages.",
"description": "Much like how American spelling and British spelling are used for the same language, Simplified and Traditional Chinese are writing systems used for the same group of Chinese languages. \n\n**__Which should I learn?__**\n\n> • If you are learning **Taiwanese Mandarin**, you should learn **Traditional Chinese**.\n> • If you are learning **Mainland Mandarin**, you may choose to learn both systems, but you may find far more resources written in **Simplified Chinese**.\n> • If you are learning **Any Non-Mandarin Chinese Languages** such as Cantonese, you are recommended to learn **Traditional Chinese** due to limited resources in Simplified - this differs from case to case, so make sure to do the research before choosing.\n> • If you are interested in **Classical Chinese** or **Traditional Chinese Culture**, knowing how to read **Traditional Chinese** might be more helpful for you.\n\n**__Who uses which writing system?__**\n\n> • **Simplified Chinese** is used in Mainland China, and taught in schools in Singapore, Malaysia & most Chinese language schools around the world.\n> • **Traditional Chinese** is used in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau & is widely used in Overseas Chinese Communities.\n\n**__I heard that XXX is better than XXX because...__**\n\n> • Each writing system has their own advantages and disadvantages. \n> • In the long term, both are equally difficult to learn, and your decision should not be based purely on perceived complexity, but rather on what your interests are, what you plan on reading, and which Chinese-speaking region you are interested in.\n> • The debate between Simplified and Traditional is **highly politicized**. Remember that everyone has the right to have their own personal preferences, including yourself!\n> • It is possible to learn both systems, but this is not recommended for beginners.",
"color": 8117429
}
... start
By yun. Last updated: 2021-01-29. (1411460)
.. start {
"fields": [],
"title": "How do I start learning Chinese?",
"description": "We have recommendations for learning resources in #资料列表・resource-list and pinned messages in #资料讨论・resources",
"color": 4755967,
}
... suicidal
By Kaoffie. Last updated: 2020-09-29. (1274758)
.. suicidal {
"fields": [],
"title": "If you are feeling suicidal right now and you need someone to talk to:",
"description": "Befrienders Worldwide: [Click here](https://www.befrienders.org/need-to-talk)
Find a helpline for your country: [Click here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/wiki/hotlines)
Suicide hotline FAQs: [Click here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SWResources/comments/1c7ntr/suicide_hotline_faqs/)
**It is common to feel depressed or suicidal.** You may feel alone in your troubles, but you are not alone - it is not taboo to feel suicidal or depressed. Many people find that talking about their feelings can alleviate their distress. If you're feeling in distress or suicidal now, there are people willing to listen to you.
**If you need help with a friend or closed one who is suicidal,**, be sure to listen. Don't judge them or try to offer advice or solutions to fix their problems; listen to them and emphathize with them. For more resources, refer to [this Reddit thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/SWResources/comments/igh87/concerned_but_dont_know_what_to_say_here_are_some/), or any of the links above.",
"color": 4755967
}
... thirdtone
By chryssi. Last updated: 2020-10-22. (1302084)
.. thirdtone {
"fields": [],
"title": "How to pronounce the third tone in Mandarin",
"description": "The usual pronunciation of the third tone is as a **low flat tone** that starts low and stays low, without rising afterwards. You may see this called a \"half-third tone\". This pronunciation is used when the third tone occurs **before a first/second/fourth tone**. This is also used when the third tone is used **at the end of a phrase** and is not emphasized.
Before another third tone: Third tone is pronounced as the second tone (the rising tone).
If you have multiple third tones in a row, which ones get converted to second tone depend on the word boundaries; see these links:
[Chinesefor.us](https://chinesefor.us/lessons/mandarin-three-third-tones-change-sandhi/)
[Chinese Stack Exchange](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/24367/what-is-the-rule-for-a-series-of-third-tones)
The only situations where the third tone is pronounced as a **falling-then-rising tone** are when it's
- **in isolation**
- at the end of a phrase *and* it is emphasized
- (uncommon) at the end of a phrase without being emphasized. That said, even on news programs on national television, with its strict adherence to standard pronunciation, the \"low flat tone\" described earlier is predominant.
See this link for more details about the third tone:
https://www.hackingchinese.com/learning-the-third-tone/",
"color": 4755967,
"image": "https://resources.allsetlearning.com/pronwiki/images/4/42/4-Tones_revised_cropped.png"
}
... til
By yun. Last updated: 2021-01-29. (1411470)
.. TIL {
"fields": [],
"title": "TIL Channel Format",
"description": "TIL
*Content of what you would like to share in a new line*",
"color": 4755967,
}
... trolls
By Kotshi. Last updated: 2020-09-14. (1259416)
.. trolls Please do not engage with trolls, ping the mods instead
... type
By chryssi, modified by Kaoffie. Last updated: 2021-01-10. (1393496)
.. type {
"title": "Pinyin is the most common method to type Chinese.",
"description": "Chinese is typed using **Input Method Editors** (IMEs). **Pinyin IMEs** work by converting pinyin to characters using a selection screen.\n\n**__Recommended Pinyin IMEs__**\n\n> • **Windows:** [Click here](http://www.pinyinjoe.com/windows-10/windows-10-pinyin-setup.htm) for instructions to set up Microsoft Pinyin\n> • **MacOS:** [Click here](https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/chinese-input-method/cimpys11836/104/mac/10.15) for instructions to set up Pinyin on MacOS; [click here](http://www.macosxtips.co.uk/index_files/the-input-menu-and-character-viewer.php) for instructions to use the input menu.\n> • **Linux:** Install ibus or fcitx using your package manager. Advanced users can also consider using ibus-rime.\n> • **Android:** [Click here](http://www.pinyinjoe.com/other-os/android-chinese-ime-input-methods.htm) for instructions to set up Google Pinyin/Gboard. \n> • **iOS:** [Click here](https://chinese.yabla.com/type-chinese-characters.php?platform=ios) for instructions to set up Pinyin on iOS\n\n\n**__Usage Notes__**\n\n> • Note that **ü is typed using v**. For example, nü is nv.\n\n**__Other Input Methods__**\n\n> • **Zhuyin/Bopomofo:** If you're learning Taiwanese Mandarin or using Traditional Chinese, you might want to use Zhuyin instead of Pinyin\n> • **Cangjie:** Cangjie is a shape-based input method that has a steep learning curve but allows users to type faster without relying on a selection screen.\n> • **Wubi:** Wubi is also a shape-based input method, designed for use with simplified characters.\n",
"color": 53380
}
... wechat
Last updated: 2020-09-12. (1257792)
.. wechat {
"fields": [],
"title": "Our stance on WeChat verification, phone numbers etc.",
"description": "As per rule 8, we **don't allow any requests for personal information** (including **phone numbers** and WeChat accounts) for the purpose of signing up for Chinese games, **WeChat verifications** and so on.
**__Why is this?__** According to Chinese law, any sort of online account registered in (PR) China has to be tied to the user's real life identity through their national ID (or indirectly through their phone number/email). It's common for foreign users who are attempting to access these gaming or chat platforms (including WeChat verifications) to search for help by asking for personal information from Chinese users.
This leads to potential legal risks; the Chinese government can trace everything back to the person who provided help in the first place, and they're liable for everything the foreign user does.
**__What can I do?__** If you've joined this server to obtain help with verification or registration, that is against the rules, and you are recommended to give up. I suggest asking someone you know in real life to help you instead.",
"color": 4755967,
"url": ""
}
... zhuanhuan
By kiwi. Last updated: 2020-12-15. (1366583)
.. zhuanhuan 用 :repeat: 反应来转换繁简体中文
React with :repeat: to convert between simplified and traditional Chinese.